Dota 2 blade mail damage type

Heroes to get Blade Mail against?

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“Pure damage is a form of magical damage that is unreduced by Magic Resistance or magic amplification (it always does exactly the damage it says it does). Because it is magical, it also ignores all Armor or forms of damage block. It does not affect units under Magic Immunity and does normal damage against Ethereal units. Examples of pure damage are Omniknight’s Purification, Pudge’s Meat Hook, Bloodseeker’s Rupture, Spectre’s Desolate and Dispersion, Enchantress’ Impetus, Chen’s Test of Faith, Silencer’s Glaives of Wisdom, Tinker’s Laser, Bane’s Brain Sap, Invoker’s Sun Strike and Outworld Destroyer’s Arcane Orb.”

Pure Damage only means it does always the same amount of damage, no matter what. But pure damage still can be blocked entirely.

Blademail sure returns pure damage, why shouldn’t it?

Juggernaut can’t receive damage of any form while using Omnislash therefore a blademail is pointless against him. on top of that, blademail does not work against magic immune units, another point why it isn’t good against him

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Verified. BKB blocks most non physical damage. As far as I can tell there are only two damage types in Dota 2: magical and physical. I don’t think it’s like all the WC3 Dota’s where the system was built upon different damage and armor types.

Because of certain things I’ve come across, I think mechanics like Blade Mail and Cleave simply have exceptions to the basic rules. I think the term “pure damage” is no longer a type of damage but simply damage that does not face resistance. That’s my speculation, but without confirmation from the devs or seeing the code first hand it’d be hard to know for sure. Some might say “But the tool tips say pure damage, so pure must be a damage type. Right?”. Well let’s analyze it.

For example, BKB gives magic immunity right? Yet most every ult can still hit you if BKB is active, you just won’t take damage. Like for Enigma’s or Necro’s ult you wouldn’t take damage but you’d still be stunned per their respective effects.

To add to all that I also ran a test. I attacked a target with a secondary target being cleaved.
The first set of attacks the secondary target uses BKB and takes cleave damage.
Second set of attacks the secondary target uses Blademail and reflects cleave damage.
Third set of attacks the secondary target uses Blademail and I (the attacker) use BKB and no damage is reflected.

Basically Cleave goes through BKB, Blade Mail returns Cleave, but BKB will block Blade Mail return on Cleave. Both the tool tips for Cleave and Blade Mail say they deal pure damage right? So why the inconstancy? Like I said before, I think they deal with exceptions to standing rules rather than make a new type of damage all together.

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Verified. BKB blocks most non physical damage. As far as I can tell there are only two damage types in Dota 2: magical and physical. I don’t think it’s like all the WC3 Dota’s where the system was built upon different damage and armor types.

Because of certain things I’ve come across, I think mechanics like Blade Mail and Cleave simply have exceptions to the basic rules. I think the term “pure damage” is no longer a type of damage but simply damage that does not face resistance. That’s my speculation, but without confirmation from the devs or seeing the code first hand it’d be hard to know for sure. Some might say “But the tool tips say pure damage, so pure must be a damage type. Right?”. Well let’s analyze it.

For example, BKB gives magic immunity right? Yet most every ult can still hit you if BKB is active, you just won’t take damage. Like for Enigma’s or Necro’s ult you wouldn’t take damage but you’d still be stunned per their respective effects.

To add to all that I also ran a test. I attacked a target with a secondary target being cleaved.
The first set of attacks the secondary target uses BKB and takes cleave damage.
Second set of attacks the secondary target uses Blademail and reflects cleave damage.
Third set of attacks the secondary target uses Blademail and I (the attacker) use BKB and no damage is reflected.

Basically Cleave goes through BKB, Blade Mail returns Cleave, but BKB will block Blade Mail return on Cleave. Both the tool tips for Cleave and Blade Mail say they deal pure damage right? So why the inconstancy? Like I said before, I think they deal with exceptions to standing rules rather than make a new type of damage all together.

We have pure damage too as mentioned above.

Juggernaut deals PHYSICAL damage with his ultimate.